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		<title>By: Nevin</title>
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		<description>Wow. Thanks Chris. I really appreciate you commenting. I think you and I have had very similar experiences, and I&#039;m really pleased that what I&#039;ve written evokes such a passionate response. I really like your list of sellouts. They do look familiar, and not just the ones you repeated from my list. The whole list could be my own.

I think a future post is going to have to be on &quot;I’m in the process of stopping my selling out behaviour.&quot; That&#039;s the real challenge, I think, and there&#039;s lots to examine in how to do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Thanks Chris. I really appreciate you commenting. I think you and I have had very similar experiences, and I&#8217;m really pleased that what I&#8217;ve written evokes such a passionate response. I really like your list of sellouts. They do look familiar, and not just the ones you repeated from my list. The whole list could be my own.</p>
<p>I think a future post is going to have to be on &#8220;I’m in the process of stopping my selling out behaviour.&#8221; That&#8217;s the real challenge, I think, and there&#8217;s lots to examine in how to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 00:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nevin -- where do I begin on this one.  Of all of the blog posts that you&#039;ve written and that I have been reading, this one is not only timely but it strikes me square in my heart and soul.

&quot;The theory of the sellout is that they happen because selling out is practical, it’s prudent and it seems like a good, secure, long-term choice.&quot;  My God!  This is the story of my post high school life.  My &#039;selling out&#039; really started in university when I was trying to figure out what to do with myself.  With the exception of a rare few who either come from a particular family tradition that they are interested in (such as law, medicine, farming, etc...) or have a very clear and courageous vision for themselves at a very young age, I think that most young adults struggle with deciding what to do at this point in their lives.  I certainly did -- I flopped on faculties and majors on several occasions until I finally decided, like you did, to pursue Business Administration.  Did I have a strong interest and flair for business?  Not really.  Did I have a family that had a strong business background; entrepreneurs or managers?  No.  I came from a family versed in nursing and law enforcement.  Neither one of my parents finished high school -- back in the late 1950&#039;s you didn&#039;t need to in order to get a decent paying job.  What guidance was I afforded?  GET A GOOD, STABLE, LONG-TERM JOB THAT WILL PAY A VERY GOOD SALARY.  So, the choices for me at the University of Regina were Business Administration or Engineering.  I took the path that I thought would at least get me a decent paying job.

So, what are my sell out moments?  Here&#039;s a list:

* I trusted the educational system with too much of my maturation and development of knowledge and pursued all manner of academic success throughout high school, university and grad school. Until only very recently have I begun to value the benefits of ongoing post-secondary education to my life.  I&#039;m now beginning to think that, after a certain point, this type of education is subject to significant diminishing returns and I&#039;m not starting to turn my back on it.
* I chose to take Administration (business school) in University, not because of some overwhelming passion for business, but because it was the path to secure, well-paid employment.
* I accepted positions of employment because of title and pay, not because of my personal affinity for the topic.
* I engaged, interacted and gave respect to undeserving individuals who held influence. I shared ideas not for innovation and effectiveness, but to impress.
* I&#039;ve pandered to powerful individuals even when I&#039;ve believed that they are dead wrong about something or I bowed to their position power over me (bloody bureaucracy!).

Does most of this sound familiar?  Sorry what is basically blatant plagiarism but I think that we&#039;ve both experienced similar paths.  I&#039;m sure that many others have as well.

I&#039;d like to express a few more thoughts with respect to ongoing post-secondary education; something that I have struggled with quite a bit over the past couple of years.  In 2008 I finished a distance-based MBA program (like I needed more business education!).  My main motivator to do this was fear -- fear that I would not be competitive given that so many people are now graduating with bachelors degrees.  It took me five years to complete the program while I was working full time.  The program was interesting and I had some great experiences as a result of pursuing it.  Out of hours education though started to become a way of life and it has taken me at least two years to start adjusting back to a &quot;normal&quot; life.  I actually found it difficult to get away from a life of study, partly based on habit but also based on fear.  I was planning on taking the CMA program this year but recently decided against doing so.  This was a hard decision because I had convinced myself that the CMA program is extremely practical and something that would lead to job security.  I realized though that I just wasn&#039;t into it -- that I was selling out.  Life is too short to be committing more time to books and the classroom.  Experience has to count for something.

Thus, I&#039;m in the process of stopping my selling out behaviour.  I&#039;m focusing more on my interests and attempting to spend more time with family and friends and taking better care of myself.  Will there be negative employment and economic consequences related to doing so?  Perhaps.  I&#039;m really not sure.  Maybe there will be other positives that will lead me to my true passions.  Only time will tell.

Thanks for posting these thoughts Nevin.  I really needed to read them at this time in my life!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nevin &#8212; where do I begin on this one.  Of all of the blog posts that you&#8217;ve written and that I have been reading, this one is not only timely but it strikes me square in my heart and soul.</p>
<p>&#8220;The theory of the sellout is that they happen because selling out is practical, it’s prudent and it seems like a good, secure, long-term choice.&#8221;  My God!  This is the story of my post high school life.  My &#8216;selling out&#8217; really started in university when I was trying to figure out what to do with myself.  With the exception of a rare few who either come from a particular family tradition that they are interested in (such as law, medicine, farming, etc&#8230;) or have a very clear and courageous vision for themselves at a very young age, I think that most young adults struggle with deciding what to do at this point in their lives.  I certainly did &#8212; I flopped on faculties and majors on several occasions until I finally decided, like you did, to pursue Business Administration.  Did I have a strong interest and flair for business?  Not really.  Did I have a family that had a strong business background; entrepreneurs or managers?  No.  I came from a family versed in nursing and law enforcement.  Neither one of my parents finished high school &#8212; back in the late 1950&#8242;s you didn&#8217;t need to in order to get a decent paying job.  What guidance was I afforded?  GET A GOOD, STABLE, LONG-TERM JOB THAT WILL PAY A VERY GOOD SALARY.  So, the choices for me at the University of Regina were Business Administration or Engineering.  I took the path that I thought would at least get me a decent paying job.</p>
<p>So, what are my sell out moments?  Here&#8217;s a list:</p>
<p>* I trusted the educational system with too much of my maturation and development of knowledge and pursued all manner of academic success throughout high school, university and grad school. Until only very recently have I begun to value the benefits of ongoing post-secondary education to my life.  I&#8217;m now beginning to think that, after a certain point, this type of education is subject to significant diminishing returns and I&#8217;m not starting to turn my back on it.<br />
* I chose to take Administration (business school) in University, not because of some overwhelming passion for business, but because it was the path to secure, well-paid employment.<br />
* I accepted positions of employment because of title and pay, not because of my personal affinity for the topic.<br />
* I engaged, interacted and gave respect to undeserving individuals who held influence. I shared ideas not for innovation and effectiveness, but to impress.<br />
* I&#8217;ve pandered to powerful individuals even when I&#8217;ve believed that they are dead wrong about something or I bowed to their position power over me (bloody bureaucracy!).</p>
<p>Does most of this sound familiar?  Sorry what is basically blatant plagiarism but I think that we&#8217;ve both experienced similar paths.  I&#8217;m sure that many others have as well.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to express a few more thoughts with respect to ongoing post-secondary education; something that I have struggled with quite a bit over the past couple of years.  In 2008 I finished a distance-based MBA program (like I needed more business education!).  My main motivator to do this was fear &#8212; fear that I would not be competitive given that so many people are now graduating with bachelors degrees.  It took me five years to complete the program while I was working full time.  The program was interesting and I had some great experiences as a result of pursuing it.  Out of hours education though started to become a way of life and it has taken me at least two years to start adjusting back to a &#8220;normal&#8221; life.  I actually found it difficult to get away from a life of study, partly based on habit but also based on fear.  I was planning on taking the CMA program this year but recently decided against doing so.  This was a hard decision because I had convinced myself that the CMA program is extremely practical and something that would lead to job security.  I realized though that I just wasn&#8217;t into it &#8212; that I was selling out.  Life is too short to be committing more time to books and the classroom.  Experience has to count for something.</p>
<p>Thus, I&#8217;m in the process of stopping my selling out behaviour.  I&#8217;m focusing more on my interests and attempting to spend more time with family and friends and taking better care of myself.  Will there be negative employment and economic consequences related to doing so?  Perhaps.  I&#8217;m really not sure.  Maybe there will be other positives that will lead me to my true passions.  Only time will tell.</p>
<p>Thanks for posting these thoughts Nevin.  I really needed to read them at this time in my life!</p>
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